Descendants of Thomas Christmas - Louisiana

Notes


5. Martha Elizabeth Christmas-279


WHT: Received the following from Noel Geissmann on June 13, 2001:

I was reading your Christmas Home Page and think your line ties indirectly into mine through Martha Elizabeth Christmas m. (1) to John Browning. They had the following children.

Rebecca Elizabeth Browning m. John Clayton: Isaac T. Browning, Jr. b. 1812; William James Browning; John Wesley Browning

John R. Browning d. 1823 and then Martha (Martia) m (2)William Carpenter.

I have copies of documents stating the above along with transcriptions. Does this match your info. Especially regarding the children? Witnesses were Wesley Chambers and Joseph D. Chisholm, Henry Christmas, Isaac Christmas, Thomas Carpenter, Zadoc Brashiers, Benjamin Byron and Isaac T. Browning. also and this was in 1823 so the signature could not be the Isaac that was born in 1812, Martha's son. It was our Isaac T. Browning.

I am from Isaac T, Browning, brother or cousin to the above John R. Browning. We have been trying to prove the Isaac/John relationship. Isaac T. Browning married Mary Carpenter. We are seeking info on them. We believe that Mary Carpenter was the sister of William Carpenter. We have been stuck at this point for many years. Also any info on Isaac Browning, her husband would be appreciated.

The last info we have on Martha Christmas and her four children by John Browning was when the two youngest children where minors and she remarried to William Carpenter. We would love to know what happened to them and would like to know or have copies of her marriages.


John Browning-280


[WHT: The following transcribed by Noel Geissmann & sent to me on June 13, 2001.]

No. 145 o.s. No. 3
PARISH PROBATE COURT PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE, STATE OF LOUISIANA H. M. MIKE CANNON, Clerk of Court

SUCCESSION OF JOHN BROWNING, JR.
Date Filed 11-27-1823
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Succession of John Browning, Jr. 145 Pr

To the Honorable the Judge of the Court of Probates, holding ? in and for the same ^ the petition of Joseph Chisholm of the Parish of Feliciana^ that a certain John Browning Jr. has departed this life in this Parish, having as his natural ? herein said Parish his legitimate children Isaac aged 11 years Elizabeth aged 8 years Wesley aged 7 years and Willaim Browning aged 4 years and that the only property left by the said John Browning Jr. consisted of a plantation of 150 arpens held in Community with Martia Browning widow of said John. Since marriage to Carpenter, said land being worth $300. And that the said summary children (all being under the age of puberty) ? in their own right two negro slaves worth the sum of $800 or thereabouts the same having been conveyed to the said children by deed of Gift from their Grandfather Isaac Browning Senior. That your petitioning is anxious to be appointed, Tutor to the said minors. And desires that a meeting of family ? be called to take into consideration the expediency of granting of their application. And the sum in which your petitioners shall give bond as Tutor ?-- and as in duty bound ? Peniston atty

*note I assume the petitioner is Joseph Chisholm as there is no signature on this page other than above

Page 3

Let a meeting of family be called forthwith so ? ? consideration the prayers of the petitioner and the Good? And N? of the ? offered by ? --- Nov 27 1823

Ch Tessier P J Estate of John Browning Jr. deceased

Petition for letter of Tutorship

Les Isaac T Browing be appointed under tutor

Hilen 27th Nov 1823


156 FLAT FILE JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT PARISH OF EAST BATON ROUGE STATE OF LOUISIANA TUTORSHIP OF MINORS OF JOHN BROWNING DATE FILED 11-27-1823

No. 426 November 27, 1823 Minor Children of the late John Browning Tutor appointed ? ?

We the undersigned, all friends and relatives of the minor children of the late John Browning of this Parish deceased, being called at the office of the undersigned Parish Judge in order to approve of the security to be given by Joseph Chisolm as tutor of said minor children do hereby unanimously find Westley Chambers, the security offered by said Chisolm, good and sufficient, In Testimony whereof we have set hereto our hands with the said Parish Judge at Baton Rouge this twenty seventh day of November A. D. 1823.

George B. Burns Wm Carpenter Martia Carpenter Before me Ch Tessier
P J L. Sheppers Allen?????? I accept the said security.
his Isaac T X Browning
mark

The Estate of John Browning deceased

To C. Tessier P. Judge ?

To holding two family meetings to affirm of apppointment of tutor and for a sale of land

Notarize) deceased estate -----------$ 20.00
To inventory ------ -----$ 3.00 _______ $ 23.00


14. Issac T. Browning-7809


Louisiana, Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1791-1890:
Name: Isaac T. Browning; State: LA; County: East Baton Rouge Parish; Township: Baton Rouge P.O.; Year: 1860; Record Type: Federal Population Schedule; Page: 570; Database: LA 1860 Federal Census Index;


16. John Wesley Browning-7811


[WHT: Info Only, might be this Browning.]
1850 Census, East Baton Rouge, LA; 4th Ward; Dwelling 600 list John Browning, age 36, farmer, born in LA; wife, Susan, 24 & 2 children: Lawson, 3 & Leander, 1.

In dwelling 605 is Thomas Carpenter and family.


6. Henry C. Christmas-283


[WHT: Received from Noel Geissmann, on July 30, 2001:] Spanish Records of West Florida; Vol. not noted - It is either Vol 3, page 67 or Vol14 p.13,14 16 of the Spanish Records in Baton Rouge. Henry Christmas, 13 years old, testifies to a murder on 23 March 1808. Christmas is living in the home of Mr. Boursefer. A John Lamb, "a crippie" is also staying in the house, as is a slave of Mr. Boursefer, named Cora. A Malcom Walker, an American deserter, comes over and gets drunk with Mr. Lamb. An argument ensues in which Lamb attempts to shoot Walker, but the gun would not fire. Lamb grabs a knife and stabs Walker, who later dies. Cora's testimony duplicates Henry Christmas.

Louisiana Soldiers in the War of 1812; Name: Christmas, Henry; Rank: Corporal; Company: De Clouet's Reg't., La. Militia.

Henry & family are listed in the 1830 Census St. Helena Parish, LA. Henry was a businessman in Baton Rough, LA, but lived in Livingston Parish.

In 1860 LA Census, Livingston Parish, p. 257, Elizabeth, Richard & Winfield are listed.

[WHT: Below are some email messages regarding a Elizabeth Christmas that married a Morrison.]
Hi Ann,
Below is a reply from Becky on the Christmas List, and she also descends from your Christmas/Morrison line. Like Becky, I cannot prove Elizabeth is a child of Henry Christmas, but she might be.

In my information, Henry Christmas and Ester Rounsevell married in 1815, and had Rebecca in 1815/16. My information shows their next child born in 1826, which was a long time between children. According to the 1820-40 census, they had other children in 1816-25 period, I do not have. In the 1820 census, it shows them having a daughter, under 5, and two sons, under 10, and 2 males in the 16-25 age range, which I think is Henry, and his brother, Issac. The girl under 5 could be Elizabeth.

In the 1830 census, they had 3 girls under 5, 3 girls 5-10, 2 girls 10 to 15, and one 20-30, and one 50-60, which might be Ester's mother? One of the two girls in the 10-15 range could be Elizabeth, I have no idea about the other.

In the 1830 census, Henry's brother, Issac has one girl under 5, and one 20-30, probably his wife. He also has one male under 5, and two males 20-30, probably Issac, and maybe his brother, Richard.

I can find no other Christmas in LA, that would fit being the parent of Elizabeth, other than Henry. Becky's info that Elizabeth and Morrison names their first child, Henry Christmas Morrison, certainly makes you think that Henry is the father of Elizabeth.

Becky also confirms your information about Lula Christmas, but I've yet to be able to figure out how she fits in. Hope this helps.

Best regards,

Herbert

From Becky to the Christmas List on 3/29/08

I am a descendant of Elizabeth T. Christmas and Hans Morrison of Louisiana. I wish I could tell you firmly that I know who Elizabeth's parent where, but all I can say that it is my presumption that she could be the daughter to Henry Christmas. Elizabeth and Hans named their first born son Henry Christmas Morrison, born September 09, 1839. The Christmas family owned an estate in Livingston Parish, Louisiana formally St. Helena Parish. This is very close to where the Morrison family lived. Henry C. Christmas was the son of Thomas and Rebekah Taylor Christmas.

I was looking over some old notes that my deceased great aunt left me on Christmas line and ran across the name Lula Christmas - Andy Dressel, one son Noel. Is this related?

Becky

From Ann on 3/25/2008:
It looks like, if I am reading this chart correctly, that her marriage was to Thomas B. Morrison (b 31 December 1814: died 15 Jan. 1870. This chart was sent to me by a distant relative. His chart had the Morrison line decended from Hans Morrison b. 1775- Ireland and died 1788- Hunterstown , Pa., York County. At this time, I don't have any more information on Lula Christmas.

[WHT: Lucretia J. "Lula" Christmas is daughter of William Young Christmas, son of Winfield Scott Christmas, son of Henry.]

Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Christmas family
Hi Ann,
I found no connections to Elizabeth and Lula. I will do the best I can to help make the connections, if you could give me a little more information. Could you tell me who Elizabeth, and Lula married?
Any other information will be helpful. I have a LA Christmas family that fits the time period, and some moved to Texas.
Best regards,
Herbert
At 06:40 PM 3/22/2008, you wrote:
Hi. I have two names in a branch of my family. One is Elizabeth T. Christmas born 12 Feb. 1820: Married 28, Jan. 1836: Died, 15 Jan. 1870. I do not even know the state. I do have another name from Louisiana. Lula Christmas from New Orleans When my grandmother was little , she visited an Aunt Lula Christmas in New Orleans. My connection is with the Morrison family. Any help will be appreciated. ann from Texas.


Ester Rounsevall-284


1860 Census, Livingston Parish, LA; Springfield PO; Dwelling 594 list Hester Curtis, age, 62, farmer, owns $5800.00 real estate. [WHT: Four of her children live in dwellings, 592, 593, 595 & 596.]

Spelling of last name could be Rounceal/Rounseville. Information on her second marriage to Levi Curtis came from the book, Lingering Shadows, Vol II by Jack Curtis, who is a descendant of this marriage.

Rebecca, a daughter of Ester & Henry Christmas, married Jonathan Curtis, the son of Levi Curtis, by his first wife, Eunice Dearmond.


23. Elizabeth Christmas-295


1860 Census, Livingston Parish, LA; Springfield PO; Dwelling 596 list Elizabeth Christmas, age 22, and Amanda Christmas, 4 or 11. [WHT: Who is Amanda?]


7. Charlotte C. Christmas-299


P. 195: Thomas Christmas gave consent to Sheppard Brown for Wesley Chambers to marry his daughter, Charlotte C. Christmas; petition dated May 2, 1812.

1850 Census, Sumner Co., TN; District 5; Dwelling 620 list Charlotte Loyd, age 48, farmer, born in LA; son, Thomas, 10, born in TN & Wm Davis, 14, born in TN.

1860 Census, Sumner Co., TN; District 5; Gallatan PO; Dwelling 49 list Charlotte C. Loyd, age 58 & son, Thomas, 21.


9. Issac C. Christmas-1971


US Govt. Land Records, Certificate # 9657. An Issac C. Christmas of Hinds Co., MS, received a land grant of 81 & 1/4 acres on Sept. 2, 1835. Land description reads as follows: The East half of the NW quarter of section 12, of Township Six of Range three, West in the district of lands subject to sale at Mount Salus, Mifsifsippi, containing eighty one acres and twenty five hundredths of an acre.

1850 Census, Harrison Co., MS, Dwelling # 171: Issac Christmas, age 49, b. MS, farmer; Nancy 48, b. TN; Francis, 20, b. LA, - listed as male, a mistaker according to Ray Anderson; John, 17, b. MS; Rebecca, 12; Benjamin, 7 & William, 4, all b. in LA. Also living with them is Henry Brannen, 26, b. MS, Farmer - Issac's son-in-law; wife, Martha, 22, b. LA, William L., 4, b. MS; Elizabeth, 3, b. MS & James, 3 mo., b. MS.

1860 Census, Van Zandt Co., TX; Clanton P.O., Dwelling # 138, roll M653 # 1307 #138/142 Issac Christmas, age 58, farmer, born in MS, value of RE, $225.;wife, Nancy, 56, born in LA 2 children: B. S., 16, born in MS & William S., 14, born in MS.


10. Nancy Rice Christmas-306


1850 Census, East Baton Rouge, LA; E. Baton Rouge; Dwelling 742 list Benjamin Williams, age 52, farmer; wife, Ann, 45 & 5 children: Matilda, 16; Dawson, 9; Benjamin, 7; Josephine, 2 & dau., Julia Dorety, 24 & her 3 children: Hester, 5; Elizabeth, 5 & male, infant

1860 Census, East Baton Rouge, LA; Baton Rouge P.O.; Dwelling 1007 list Ann C. Williams, age 52, with following children: Louisa - See her 1860 census abstract; J. D. Williams, 20; Benj A., 17 & Josephine, 10.

1870 Census, East Baton Rouge, LA; Ward 4; Port Hudson P.O.; Dwelling 777 list Ann R. Williams, age 64 & 2 children: Benjamin, 27, farmer & Josephine E., 19.

[WHT: Some information on Nancy was provided by Diane Dumas, a descendant, who helped or wrote, Baker, The First Hundred Years.]


Benjamin Anthony Williams-307


1850 Census, East Baton Rouge, LA; Ward 7; Dwelling 742 list Benjamin Williams, age 52, farmer; wife, Ann, 43 & following children: Julia Dority, 24; Matilda, 16; Dawson, 9; Benjamin, 7 & Josephine, 2. Also in the household are Dority grandchildren, children of Julia Dority: Hester, 5; Elizabeth, 5 & Wm., 2 mo.

[WHT: "Baker: The First 200 Years, 1776-1976" p. 262 list most of their children. His parents are from Ancestry.com Gene Pool Records - Info Only.]


Mary Margaret Sims-5163


[WHT: Dudley Hinds provided the following information.]

RE: birth. Mary's father, John Sims, purchased land in Mississippi by deed dated 16 May, 1817 (Book B, Page 104, Wilkinson Co., MS). The property was conveyed by "Wade Hampton now of the State of Louisiana...unto John Sims, also of the same State."

FHC: Batch # M520416, Call # 877599


Elizabeth Moore Howell-327


1850 Census, E. Feliciana Parish, LA; Dwelling 205 list James Peacock, age 30, Physicial; wife Elizabeth, 30 - [WHT: I think this is Elizabeth Howell.] and the following children: Mary E. Christmas, 10; Charles Christmas, 8; Clara [hard to read] 6; Lulah K. Peacock, 3 & Helen, 1.

FHC Archive Record is source of marriage & children.


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